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Give me a break.:eek::eek:

Pickup trucks are getting smaller, and so are crossovers. But the fun little hatchback is maturing into a compact. We are of course talking about the all-new MINI Clubman. Is it still a MINI and does it compete with anything? Opinions will differ, but from the point of view of Consumer Reports, the Clubman is overpriced.

We didn't need them to tell us that. Every MINI we've tested seems too expensive for the money you are paying. However, the Clubman is also big, about the size of a regular VW Golf. It's considered by many to be the first compact in the company's history, and for good reason.

The engine family in Europe is vast, ranging from tiny little diesel engines to big ones. However, America only gets a couple, and they are both from BMW. The first is a 1.5-liter turbocharged 3-cylinder unit. Europeans can get the same thing on a 2 Series coupe, but we can't. If you want power for your Clubman, it's going to come in the form of a 2-liter making roughly 190 ponies.

You can buy both on the 10-inch-shoter regular model. But the one major difference between the Clubman and the 5-door hardtop is that you can order it with all-wheel drive. Why would you want to when there's a new Countryman coming? Good question. We don't have an answer.

The Clubman also comes with a couple of barn doors instead of a hatch. MINI probably did that to be cool, helping this weirdo fit with all those owner meets. But it creates one of the biggest blind spots in the industry, and the fact that a reversing camera is optional doesn't fix the problem all the way.

Has MINI built such a great reputation that it can continue selling $40,000 compacts? If you account the brand, the image, the power/weight, and the sweet handling, then the answer has to be yes... but not for everybody.


 

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Pretty fair. You have to really want the styling, handling, and feel of a MINI to choose a Clubman over a Golf GTI or Golf R. Lucky for MINI, they still seem to have that captive audience that has to have a MINI.


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Pretty fair. You have to really want the styling, handling, and feel of a MINI to choose a Clubman over a Golf GTI or Golf R. Lucky for MINI, they still seem to have that captive audience that has to have a MINI.


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OR... feel totally burned by VW re: Dieselgate.

We're doing our homework now for the upcoming buyback. I'd love to consider a GTI, but my wife and are feeling pretty anti-VW right now (and I was a longtime fanboy to boot). I don't really want to hand VW any more $ at this point, so trying to see if a Clubman can fit the bill. We're discarding a 2014 Jetta Sportwagen 6MT. Longroof, MT replacements are hard to come by.
 

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DRS, welcome to the forum. :) Give the Clubman a good test drive I be sure you and the Misses will like it the built quality is outstanding. It is a great carimho just too big for my needs otherwise I would have one in the garage.
 

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It's my situation.
I've never considered a Mini, beautiful but small!
Too small! ...I'm 1.92cm...
My F54 is a Golf size but it's not so common and boring...
As soon as we saw it...me and my wife had the same idea: let's go to the dealer!
Last year, just to see it in advance...in August we went to Olympia park in Munich...but it was not there yet...and so we covered the delusion in http://www.hofbraeuhaus.de/en/index_en.html :D
 
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