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ChimChimGoFast
Hey everyone, I am looking to get some coil overs on ChimChim. I want to reduce the wheel gap, originally I was going with Lowering springs and use them until I wore the shocks and struts to death to save a couple bucks, I've since reminded myself that I am a buy once cry once type of guy. I also drive this thing hard so I'd benefit from the stability. I have seen a lot of good reviews on the usual suspects from end users but little to no data certain aspects of the product, ie longevity and commute ride quality. It'd be nice to know what people are getting out of their coilovers.
Any experiences with the below products would be appreciated, especially outside of the KWs which have many great reviews everywhere.

I have noticed that I can get a significantly better price shopping from sites in the UK and having them shipped. That's why most of the URLs I have included are in the UK….Also if anyone has had experiences with Demon Tweeks feel free to chime in. Thanks All!


Bilstein B14
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-bilstein-parts/coilover-suspension-kit/47-244412~bil/

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/...top+2+Door&autoYear=2016&autoModClar=Cooper+S

ST XA
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/perfo...-kit-lowers-front-25-50mm-lowers-rear-30-55mm

Eibach Pro street
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/perfo...-kit-lowers-front-20-45mm-lowers-rear-20-45mm

Forge
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-forge-parts/forge-coilover-suspension-kit/fmsusf56~frg/

KW V1
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/perfo...kit-lowers-front-25-50-mm-lowers-rear-30-55mm
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Cypher said:
Ah, I was going off of what I heard on Adam LZ's video when his wife got coilovers installed on her F56. I guess it's something they're looking to add on.



Did you re use the original top mounts Harvey or did you replace them with aftermarket ones?

Did you get them from Orranje?
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Replaced with the original mounts. As far as I'm aware when I spoke to bc they wasn't concerned about making the f56 kit with adjustable topmounts. Her car is the only one with adjustable top mounts at the moment.
I brought direct from bc.


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Jordan said:
Just a note:
Having just ordered the ST XA kit from demon tweeks.
They are NOT XA!!!
They don't make them yet and it's an error!!
An error that took 27 days to sort out!
They are just ST X. Waste of Fucking time
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That's disappointing, this is a chat I had with them on FB when I was about to buy from them. Obviously he just made that up! Ha!

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Tom B said:
That's disappointing, this is a chat I had with them on FB when I was about to buy from them. Obviously he just made that up! Ha!
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tell them they are idiots, i compared my serial number with the kw and they are wrong.
then they checked and agreed its an internet error..

i have the names of 3 people i know now.. who had the same problem

On a different note.. the BC with adjustable damping are available for £750... so im in two minds to get a refund and get them..
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http://www.corbymotorsport.com/bmw-...-17276?zenid=b0997aab64522f2f479dc1daaff27a4f
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Jordan said:
http://www.corbymotorsport.com/bmw-...-17276?zenid=b0997aab64522f2f479dc1daaff27a4f
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The only thing that put me off was the fact even with adjustable dampers they're cheaper than most Coilovers options without adjustable damping, which made me question the quality of them. Although I've only heard good things about them!
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Tom B said:
The only thing that put me off was the fact even with adjustable dampers they're cheaper than most Coilovers options without adjustable damping, which made me question the quality of them. Although I've only heard good things about them!
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I heard both, was on a VW forum and the fitting was being scrutinized, same with BMW but they seemed to think the valving was crap. Lastly i saw a Nissan forum that had nothing but good to say, only complaint was how low they went or didnt go actually

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ChimChimGoFast said:
I heard both, was on a VW forum and the fitting was being scrutinized, same with BMW but they seemed to think the valving was crap. Lastly i saw a Nissan forum that had nothing but good to say, only complaint was how low they went or didnt go actually

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Having tried a few different set-ups on the f56 I really rate the bc' the only thing I will change them for is kw clubsports when I have the money.
But that's not for a while.


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harveycook97 said:
Having tried a few different set-ups on the f56 I really rate the bc' the only thing I will change them for is kw clubsports when I have the money.
But that's not for a while.


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What about them do rate better Than others? What other setups, lots of options out there so it'd be good to hear about others on the same car... less variables and all that

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ChimChimGoFast said:
What about them do rate better Than others? What other setups, lots of options out there so it'd be good to hear about others on the same car... less variables and all that

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Visually, lets compare to the ST A i have..

The ST A , have one collar for securing ride height.
BC have 2..
ST A dont have damper adjustable
BC do
ST A adjust like a normal coilover where the damper travel is reduced the lower you go.
BC, do not -

im sure harvey will tell you more.

I compare the BC directly with Meister i had on the R55 . Look to be the same bodies, same construction, same technology.
if i had known about these before i bought mine.. i would have BC right now..
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More options to make it even more confusing lol!

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Tom B said:
More options to make it even more confusing lol!
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I just saw this too from Lohen,
How can demon tell us they don't have them and then Lohen somehow do!?
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Tom B said:
More options to make it even more confusing lol!
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Saw that on their IG today. I need someone in the US to get the Xs and I'll be good to go.

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Was looking at ST X coilovers but after seeing BC's for £100 more, I have just pulled the trigger on these.
Will update and give a full review once they arrive!
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callumgott said:
Was looking at ST X coilovers but after seeing BC's for £100 more, I have just pulled the trigger on these.
Will update and give a full review once they arrive!
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I was lucky I got them for a steal, even though they weren't described correctly,
All fitted now I'll post a review
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Jordan said:
I was lucky I got them for a steal, even though they weren't described correctly,
All fitted now I'll post a review
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Hey mate, how are you finding the ST X's?
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Cypher said:
Hey mate, how are you finding the ST X's?
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They are firm but for some feel like sport suspension.
I don't rub, or knock or bang or anything am im sitting maybe 30mm lower. Still have loads to go on the threads but I'm happy with the height.

The handling has been transformed and I no longer curse roundabouts since I can swing round them very fast. I do reach the end of the grip level on my tyres now so that's the new weakest link that needs upgrading. I don't have any body roll and have never bottomed out. I have driven them for around 1000 miles now since going away for the week with a few mini friends so are bedded in nicely.

For me I will add a strut brace for more stiffness as I'm used to my old Meisters

In all they are brilliant for the money, if I did this again, I would get the BCs because they have the camber plates on the front and the adjustable damping which is all what I'm used to.

All in all brilliant coilovers and I highly recommend them, 2 year warranty, built by KW. What's not to love. Once fitted and you have the desired ride height they are simply fit and forget.

I will do a how to install guide soon when I find some time
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Dos the suspension with electronic control you only need to change the spirings. It os totally enough for all conditions (road and track)

I add rear control arms and powerlex black both front and rear. Result is amazing ! No need to spend a money !
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selim.ilgaz.5 said:
Dos the suspension with electronic control you only need to change the spirings. It os totally enough for all conditions (road and track)

I add rear control arms and powerlex black both front and rear. Result is amazing ! No need to spend a money !
Cheers


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With the new coilovers my rear wheels were sitting at -2.5degrees on stock arms, which is more than enough so no need to change them to aftermarket. Especially when the front can only be adjusted to around -1degree.
If you are running front camber plates around -1 or -2, then you might need a pair of rear arms on the bottom just to dial it out a little further.
2 pairs are not needed
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Thats your opinion ! If you are not prepare it for track you are right. But if you add that toys rear you will have more tolerance and stiffness. Btw from a front side, if you installed powerlfex black front control arm angled bushed you will get more that 2 degree camber adjustment

Picture that I've attaced has not final geometry that I shoted moment.
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Selim


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Even if on track, a metal arm is the same as a metal arm.
I had -2.5 degrees on my standard arms and could go more but I reduced it to be proportionate to the front.
I think people get Hung up on modifying things they don't need to or think it will help.

Each to their own I guess
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