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Right, so just got the car back from the dealership.

Head office apparently suggested that the software be upgraded as they thought it may be a glitch :(

None the less, dealer has asked me to drive it and see if the error comes back. They also mentioned that we need to be weary ad to not ride the clutch (wall bang)


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Right, so just got the car back from the dealership.

Head office apparently suggested that the software be upgraded as they thought it may be a glitch :(

None the less, dealer has asked me to drive it and see if the error comes back. They also mentioned that we need to be weary ad to not ride the clutch (wall bang)
As another poster said awhile back, this car is a computer wrapped in a pretty box. There is a lot of software running in there, on many platforms. There are hundreds of microchips running 8 & 16-bit code controlling everything from ABS to changing the ambient light color. Bigger processors run the ECU and control the transmission.

I'm a software guy, with some experience with embedded systems like those that control our cars. There are millions of lines of code running every time we push that fat red button. It's a miracle that there aren't more "glitches".

I'm waiting for the first instance of a car being hacked. That should be interesting-- Some 13 year old kid in Romania sending Grandma's Buick on a wild ride through the tall grass...
 

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We're doomed

They're already stealing them quite easily! By grabbing the code or hacking!
Yes. All you need is a simple device that hooks into the CAN and you can disable any security and drive off.

I expect some attention is going to be paid in the years ahead to "hardening" the car to prevent vulnerable networks from being compromised by average hooligans. But given the increasing use of infotainment systems like the MINI central display, where people can connect to the internet for god's sake, I fear that we're going to see a lot of people's MINIs getting commandeered by porn sites or something and sent off into the weeds, or worse.

A network is generally safe as long as it's isolated from the outside world. But as STUXNET showed us, a simple USB drive can be used to cause all kinds of mischief in an otherwise isolated and secure network. How many of you are plugging a USB drive into your MINIs?

Even if you never plug a USB drive in, if your navigation/infotainment system communicates with the internet (downloading maps or real time traffic, for example), it can be hacked. It's bad enough that some pimply 13-year old might lock up your transmission on the motorway one night, but what happens when the Religion Of Peace decides that infidel air bags should be programmed to randomly deploy? Or China decides to immobilize every car in the UK built after 1987? That would be a great way to pwn an economy, not to mention making it difficult for the military to use the roads (due to all the cars immobilized with lights flashing, windows randomly rolling up and down, and horns honking, baffled owners locked inside).
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Wow, now where's my computer. Switch email all off and scotch past all the traffic on my cg125.(non it tech motorbike!)
 
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On the thread of software glitches, I had the Bluetooth stop working yesterday evening, just wouldn't boot up. everything else worked fine so i tried to look at the e-manual and that wouldn't boot up either - tried turning the ignition on and off etc and nothing...

Got in it this morning and all works fine
 

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On the thread of software glitches, I had the Bluetooth stop working yesterday evening, just wouldn't boot up. everything else worked fine so i tried to look at the e-manual and that wouldn't boot up either - tried turning the ignition on and off etc and nothing...

Got in it this morning and all works fine
It begins. Today Bluetooth, tomorrow Sport Mode blows your sunroof off and deflates your tires...
 

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On the thread of software glitches, I had the Bluetooth stop working yesterday evening, just wouldn't boot up. everything else worked fine so i tried to look at the e-manual and that wouldn't boot up either - tried turning the ignition on and off etc and nothing...



Got in it this morning and all works fine

"Have you tried turning it off and on again"


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Sigh, so the dealer called and said they have been advised to pull the gear box and do a clutch inspection as well as a flywheel inspection.

I have the feeling the car will never be the same again :(

What's worse is if they turn around and say "the car is broken because of bad driving" as they already said after first service that I need to becarefull not to "ride the clutch" I mean really... It has 1500km on the clock???


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Right so, after about 6-8 weeks we finally got our mini back.

We had a 328i as a loan car during the time, and whilst I love the car, I ended up missing the mini. I will say, I think i actually prefer the mini, it's so much more fun.

The dealer replaced the clutch and flywheel, and said that should solve the issue I was having.
so we will continue on and see how we go.

I did say that if it breaks again, then we will need to have a more serious conversation


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Right so, after about 6-8 weeks we finally got our mini back.

We had a 328i as a loan car during the time, and whilst I love the car, I ended up missing the mini. I will say, I think i actually prefer the mini, it's so much more fun.

The dealer replaced the clutch and flywheel, and said that should solve the issue I was having.
so we will continue on and see how we go.

I did say that if it breaks again, then we will need to have a more serious conversation


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Have you seen the issue arise since the work was conducted? I just dropped the car this morning with the same error.
 

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I'm curious about this too. Today on the way home, I just got this error. The transmission is really rough. Not looking forward to potentially being without my new car for a few weeks.
 
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