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Hi all,

I'm gonna change my JCW brakes someday, and i'm wondering which one choose.

From what i've understood :

- The originals are better for everyday use (the discs pads wear less quickly)

- the ones with dimples / holes / grooves are better for braking power and cooling, but the brake pads wear quicker

So here are the ones I've found :

- Original Brembo (around 220€ per pair) (and matching rear discs 80€)
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- Brembo w/ holes and grooves (around 180€) (and no matching rear)
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- Tarox F2000 with multiple grooves (around 420€) (and matching rear 340€)
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- Tarox Sport Japan with holes and grooves (around 410€) (and matching rear 330€)
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- mtec (can choose any style, around 175£, matching rear for around 75£)
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- Zimmerman coat Z sport (around 190€ per pair, no matching rear):
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Others ?

What would you choose for everyday use / style / a few trackdays ?

What have experienced, and what are your pros and cons ?

(and next we'll discuss brakepads :p)
 

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I’m running Zimmerman dimpled and grooved with matching Zimmerman pads on my JCW. Cannot fault them. Had them in a year and seem to be wearing better thank OEM. I’m going to use Zimmerman for the rears when the time comes.
 

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I can't say for Mini's, but I've been happy with EBC in the past.

I've used their Ultimax/BlackStuff range in the past.

But they have several types of discs and pads to choose from.

 

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How much do you want to spend......?

I needed some in a hurry for a MoT, didn’t want to spend dealer rates, couldn’t buy brembo again which I had previously used, Zimmerman were a week away for me.

so got these for a song and more than happy, been fitted for nearly 6 months
and been using pagid pads


ps: the Zimmerman look good, I have set of these still in the box, they arrived too late to fit.
 

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How much do you want to spend......?

I needed some in a hurry for a MoT, didn’t want to spend dealer rates, couldn’t buy brembo again which I had previously used, Zimmerman were a week away for me.

so got these for a song and more than happy, been fitted for nearly 6 months
and been using pagid pads


ps: the Zimmerman look good, I have set of these still in the box, they arrived too late to fit.
No budget, i want something good for track days, and usable for everyday.... and good looking ;)
Right now i'm considering Tarox or EBC (no idea about what mtec quality is). On my other cars i've installed Brembo or ATE, always happy... but they are everyday cars, not sports cars
 

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We can easily help you with this dilemma. Why not take a look at what We can offer and let Me know if you need any further assistance...

Where to buy EBC Products - EBC Brakes
Could you possibly give me a brief description of what the difference is between:

Ultimax 2 < GreenStuff 2000 < YellowStuff 4000

And also:

OE Discs < Ultimax Discs < Turbo Groove Discs

And which would be the best combination for a manual 2016 F54 Cooper S All4 Clubman.

Driving is road, occasionally spirited ;)

I had the Ultimax Discs and Pads on my Corsa before and was happy with them.
 

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Could you possibly give me a brief description of what the difference is between:

Ultimax 2 < GreenStuff 2000 < YellowStuff 4000

And also:

OE Discs < Ultimax Discs < Turbo Groove Discs

And which would be the best combination for a manual 2016 F54 Cooper S All4 Clubman.

Driving is road, occasionally spirited ;)
Ultimax – OE replacement
Greenstuff – small upgrade (urban/commuting)
Yellowstuff – fast road/light car track

Brake Pads Archives - EBC Brakes

OE discs – FLAT as per standard
Ultimax – USR straight cut grooved
Turbo Groove – GD grooved and dimpled

Brake Discs / Brake Rotors Archives - EBC Brakes

We would recommend Yellow Pads and GD or USR Discs for a manual 2016 F54 Cooper S All4 Clubman
 

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Ultimax – OE replacement
Greenstuff – small upgrade (urban/commuting)
Yellowstuff – fast road/light car track

Brake Pads Archives - EBC Brakes

OE discs – FLAT as per standard
Ultimax – USR straight cut grooved
Turbo Groove – GD grooved and dimpled

Brake Discs / Brake Rotors Archives - EBC Brakes

We would recommend Yellow Pads and GD or USR Discs for a manual 2016 F54 Cooper S All4 Clubman
Thank you.

Is there any difference in the cold performance of the UM/GS/YS pads?
 

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Hi EBC,
So you're saying Yellostuf pads + turbo groove discs...
Do they exist for front and rear ?
 

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Hi EBC,
So you're saying Yellostuf pads + turbo groove discs...
Do they exist for front and rear ?
Yes, all parts exist for the 2017 F56 JCW, If you visit this link you will see the local distributor options available to you and they will be able to check stock levels etc. Thanks

Europe - Automotive - EBC Brakes
 

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Not for the discs I am afraid.
Understood.

I appreciate your responses, they've been very helpful. Especially pointing me towards the graphs.

Pity there's no easy way to compare the USR and GD. It's difficult to ascertain from the descriptions if I would notice the difference between the 2
 

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Understood.

I appreciate your responses, they've been very helpful. Especially pointing me towards the graphs.

Pity there's no easy way to compare the USR and GD. It's difficult to ascertain from the descriptions if I would notice the difference between the 2
If you would like to ask more detailed disc questions, please email our tech team at [email protected] and they will be happy to help where possible.
 

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Hi All - coming back to this topic.

I want to change my pads to EBC Yellow stuff, just to take part in a few track days. Do I need to know what calipers I have to buy the pads ? The '16 F56 JCW is standard.
Is there a way I can work out what calipers I have ?

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Hi, We would suggest Bluestuff pads on the front and yellowstuff on the rear, we have customers who use this setup and love it.
The problem we currently have is availability for the rears, maybe not available until August…..
There is only one option of caliper on this car so no need to find that out.
If you need more help let me know.
This link will point you in the right direction and use FORUM10USER for 10% discount.

MINI Mini Hatch (3rd Gen) (F56) 2.0 Turbo Works 231BHP 2014- - EBC Brakes Discs, Pads and Shoes

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I have been running Zimmerman discs on the front of my JCW for over 15000 miles with no problems,i use the Mintex pads. The vonly thing i would say is if you are ocd on detail they are not handed.ie. the slots point forward on one side and backwards on the other.
 
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