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Hi all,

I currently have 9000km on my Cooper that I purchased in May of this year. I noticed that the oil change interval was every 15,000km, so I am wondering if any of you think this is too long between changes. Should I change the oil more frequently? Also, this is a leased car if that matters (it won't be mine in 2.5 years)..

I appreciate your help.

WSMC
 

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It is purely a personal choice, particularly with a leased vehicle. With all of the electronic sensors the engine monitor sensors should alert you if it needs attention. I would not change it BMW dropped the mechanical dipstick, therefore, if it fails it is their error.
 

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If you're not keeping the car above 40-50k miles unless like me you think of the car as a living thing and can't bear to see it suffer, then no, don't bother . HOWEVER there are plenty of websites around that find the longer oil change intervals being a major factor in early turbo failure-read Turbo Technics consultant in EVO stated quite clearly that long service instervals were killing turbos-cared for they can last years. Turbo engines run hot; carbon builds up and clogs the turbo oil feed among other nasties. The bearings then get destroyed.There fore if you are keeping it change the oil more often. In the uk the interval seems to be around 18k miles -2 years but i have a dipstick on the roadster s and the oil after 1 year and 9000 miles looks terrible. I change it for the sake of £20-i dont do the filter nor reset the computer, so mini then do the next one! if you were selling privately to me i'd be far more likely to buy your car if you changed the oil more often-shows you care!
 

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add my two peneth

ok so my reply is not based on any experience of mini, as i only got mine 30th september (CSD)

but going by previous cars ive always stuck to the old fashioned idea, that every 3k is the best option.

I dont really care what the manufacturer says, as far as im concerned advertising a 19k service interval is
marketing for , our cars are cheaper to run, so please buy one.

ive just orderd 4 x 5 litres of Fuchs Titan GT1 pro C-3 XTL fully synthetic £109 delivered, as its heavy and

its free delivery for orders over £60.

and will be changing every 3k.

Ill still have it serviced by mini, as ive paid for the 5 year service, to ensure that there are no guarantee issues.
but for me this car is a keeper, long term, my last car was in my ownership for 14 years, i dont see this being any different.

just my opinion, you dont have to agree with it.

regards peter
 

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As I rarely keep a car more than 2 or 3 years I just go by their intervals and leave it to the TLC, my JCW I had just over 4 years but it still only had 2 services but I don't do high mileage and don't do many short distances :)

To answer the OP's question, it's leased not yours so no I wouldn't change the oil..
 

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The interval in Ireland seems to be about 36,000 kms for the first oil change which is totally ridiculous.
I have my F56 Cooper Petrol on PCP so changing it in three years but I have still changed the oil and filter twice already at my local Independent MINI specialist.
Car has 24,000 kms on it already and the car still says another 12,000 kms before the 'first' service.
I have TLC so the next oil change will be at my MINI dealership.
My best friend is the Independent MINI specialist and if you saw the damage done by adhering to the TLC schedule you would be shocked. He has loads of engines in for rebuilds at the moment because of this.
 

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Oil change at 13.500 km

Had the oil+filter changed at 13.500 km, approx. 12 months after the car being on the road.
I had to say that the old oil was at a very decent state also according to my mechanic's opinion. Texture and viscosity was looking good, colour was definitely darker than the new oil and even darker from the oil at 2.900 km (I had sampled a few drops from the oil at 2.900 km).
I'm pretty confident it is a good practice to make an intermediate oil change, half way to the odo interval suggested by the car's 'computer'.
My car will be on approx. 22.000km until the sign says 'Oil service'. For sure a huge way to go with the oil from the factory.
Just for fun, left on the photo oil at 2.900k, on the right at 13.500km.
 

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I agree with vet, if youre not keeping it don't bother but I would say the above shows how bad it ius. Oil on the right looks black to me and in need of change.. We have a non turbo dacia(1.6 16 valve renault petrol engine) and after a year and 9000 miles really hard use,ie lots short jouneys then thrashed by towing a caravan, it still looks like the oil on the left. Turbo engines get very hot and put high demands on oil. The sooty oil then blocks oil lines eg to the turbo. If you are keeping the car or even might or pass it to someone you know a yearly oil change is very cheap insurance and lots of anecdotal evidence says it makes sense!
 

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IMO no motor fluid is for 'life'; oils get tainted by all sorts of noxious substances even though the new (synthetic) oils stay in grade very much longer.

I recently changed the oil + filter in my '17 F56 MCS after 1500mls and I'm convinced it needed doing. Gear oil will be done at 10 000ml / 2 years for peace of mind, too. Both d-i-y-able, but increasing dealer costs cloud the issue for business thinkers and increasingly popular leasehold-type packages are costed to the penny nowadays.

'Life' = 'out of warranty' to manufacturers I think and 'out of warranty' = 'you're on your own'...

Incidentally, when looking for re-fill capacity with my R56 I regularly found that quoted values went over the max. I used to find a 4l pack of 5w/30 took it close to max with oil + filter. This time around on the F56 I found that a 5l pack of 5w/30 takes it to the max for an oil and + filter change (oh for a dipstick!). I've seen that quoted values between 4.65l ->5.25l take the sensor to max and I wonder what others have found?

It seems that the filter volume could be 0.6l? If so, I've found that 4.4l w/out filter, 5.0l with, maxes the sensor on mine...
 

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Thanks folks I suspect both these are with a filter change.

Meanwhile, the penny's dropped. The F56 needs filling with a 'filter bowl's' worth of oil extra since it hangs upside down at the bottom of the engine but on the R56 most of the oil drains back downwards since it's located at the top.

So, 4.65 litres w/out filter change and 5.25 litres with makes sense depending on the need to fill the bowl.

I'm now happy with simply buying a 5 litre pack and always replacing the filter, since this 'solution' reached the line on the max bar when I checked.

(ps Anyone done a coolant change yet w/out needing some sort of vacuum aid? I get the impression the gear oil level + drain plugs are get-attable in the 'old way' although I haven't tried a refresh yet...)
 

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JCW capacity with filter change is 5.25 Liters. I got it from my dealer on the spec sheet from BMW.
 

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3rd generation (F55-F56-F57)
Submodel:Cooper 3rd-gen. 3-Door (F56)

Production/sales period:
early-year 2014 -

Body style:hatchback
Doors:3
Traction:FWD (front-wheel drive)

Engine type:spark-ignition 4-stroke
Fuel type: petrol (gasoline)
Cylinders alignment:Line 4
Displacement:1998 cm3 / 121.9 cui
Horsepower net:141 kW / 192 PS / 189 hp (ECE)

Transmission type:automatic
Number of gears:6

According to our sources, oil, coolant and fuel capacity for this version of 2015 Mini Cooper S 3-Door automatic are as follows:

Engine lubricant oil capacity: 5 liter / 5.3 U.S. qt / 4.4 imp. qt

Engine coolant capacity: 6.1 liter / 6.5 U.S. qt / 5.4 imp. qt

Fuel tank capacity: 44 liter / 11.6 U.S. gal / 9.7 imp. gal

Battery capacity (Ah): 80
 
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