Real Range?

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TaylorJade26

Discussion Starter · 1 mo ago

Hi! I know this discussion has probably been had a million times over, but just looking for more specific! I picked up my Level 3 Electric Mini on Monday, and I absolutely love it! I went into it with my eyes open, knowing the range was limited and probably around 100 miles (and anything extra is a bonus). I’ve put it on charge, and currently showing 85% as 75 miles, so fully charged would be 100% and 90 miles.

Now I have heard the “GOM” mentioned, and how the miles are a guess and it’s actually more. And I presume the more I drive it, the better the range will be as it was reset by the dealership on Monday. But my miles/kWh is 4.5miles/kWh so that’s around 130 miles really. Should I be expecting 90? 100? 130? Should I be basing it off the miles/kWh more than the GOM? Any help appreciated!

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MarkYorks

· #2 · 1 mo ago

The GOM is pessimistic. I would work off your miles per kWh.

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Rod S

· #3 · 1 mo ago

As per Mark, the miles/kWhr is better but is still a rolling average.

The one I prefer to use is, if you play with the button on the end of the indicator stalk, you can get a small realtime battery percentage remaining as two digit number at the bottom right of the display. That is highly accurate and you quickly learn how many miles per battery percentage your driving style achieves.

Lastly, decide what battery percentage range you are going to use - another hotly debated topic - no point in calculating the range for 100% of battery capacity if you are always going to recharge when it's dropped to 20% (my chosen figure and works for me as I bought it for mostly short local journeys so charge mostly at home)

FB1

· #4 · 1 mo ago

So yesterday I left for work with 100% charge and GOM showing 102 miles. I did a round trip of 30 miles and got home with the GOM showing 82 miles.
It's unreliable

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Red Mini

· #5 · 1 mo ago

As Rod says set the cluster to %.
I work on a factor of 1.5 miles to 1% in warm weather and 1 - 1.2 miles per 1% when cooler.
Of course it depends how you drive it!

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Fivetones

· #6 · 1 mo ago

My experience is similar to @Red Mini

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SameGuy

· #7 · 1 mo ago

Lol yep. I had the 12 V battery disconnected for a couple of hours on Wednesday, and after I reconnected, the GOM rocketed from the usual 160 km (100 miles) or so up to 194 km (120 miles). Then I drove to work and back, a total of 29 km (18 miles) and the GOM now suggests a remaining range of 127 km (79 miles).

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TaylorJade26

Discussion Starter · #8 · 1 mo ago

Well an update to this…I’ve drove 65 miles and have 50% charge left! GOM suggests that my remaining range is around 51 miles if I remember correctly! But based on the distance travelled and percentage left, I should be getting around 130 miles of range!

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jeremybingham

· #9 · 1 mo ago

Best ignored!

PlugInPete

· #10 · 1 mo ago

Wait until you do a long journey at an easy pace, the GOM range actually goes up the more you drive!
Ignore it, use the percentage read-out.
Have fun!

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Steve Harvey

· #11 · 1 mo ago

154 miles full to dead.

Red Mini

· #12 · 1 mo ago

PlugInPete said:
Wait until you do a long journey at an easy pace, the GOM range actually goes up the more you drive!
Ignore it, use the percentage read-out.
Have fun!

It does!

RedAntisocial

· #13 · 14 d ago

Nice drive this morning:
May 15, 2023 at 10:37
** 17 °C
** Wind: 10.68 km/h from W
** Humidity: 0.36%
** Driven: 102 Km
** Start-Batt: 100%
** End-Batt: 58%
** Km / kWh: 8.4
** GOM Reading: 102 Km
** Calculated Range Left: 140.8 Km
** Total Range (From 100% charge): 242.76 Km

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SameGuy

· #14 · 13 d ago

Mine was similar, if a bit less stellar; I drove into town for an appointment, in morning rush-hour traffic. Then a bit more highway traffic before getting out of town and driving across the border into New York State. So overall, the first 42 km were a mix of urban streets and slow/stop-&-go highway traffic, then 93 km on the motorway at a fairly steady 115 km/h (indicated).

May 15, 2023 at 11:48
** 19 °C
** Wind: 15.76 km/h from W
** Humidity: 0.34%
** Driven: 135.5 Km
** Start-Batt: 100%
** End-Batt: 25% ** Km / kWh: 6.25
** GOM Reading: 152 Km
** Calculated Range Left: 45.16 Km
** Total Range (From 100% charge): 180.66 Km

I plugged in at an Electrify America 150 kW pump (35¢ US per kWh, plus 8% NY sales tax) and went shopping. Got back to the car and it was at 97%. The return trip was mostly on back highways at 90 km/h with a 20 km blast with a matted pedal near the end, but against the wind the whole way.

** Wind: 34.86 km/h from W
** Humidity: 0.55%
** Driven: 121 Km
** Start-Batt: 97%
** End-Batt: 38%
** Km / kWh: 7.1
** GOM Reading: 162 Km
** Calculated Range Left: 77.97 Km
** Total Range (From 97% charge): 198.97 Km
** Total Range (From 100% charge): 205.19 Km

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RedAntisocial

· #15 · 13 d ago

Yeah, mine was my regular commute to work, which is ~1/3 freeway at 120km/h, ~1/3 highways at 80km/h, and ~1/3 hellish stop and go in town traffic around my office. My drive was 100% in Green mode, which likely accounts for the nice total range numbers. My drive home in the Standard mode got a more expected range. For some reason I always drive a little bit faster and less efficiently on the way home

May 15, 2023 at 18:17
** 19 °C ** Wind: 21.74 km/h from W
** Humidity: 0.29%
** Driven: 97 Km
** Start-Batt: 100%
** End-Batt: 50%
** Km / kWh: 6.71
** GOM Reading: 84 Km
** Calculated Range Left: 96.96 Km
** Total Range (From 100% charge): 193.96 Km
** Total Range (From 100% charge): 193.919 Km

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Blue al

· #16 · 13 d ago

I find it disturbing that people are happy or devastated by + or - 15 miles.….
when the next version arrives with 150+ miles of real world range the value of existing cars is bound to plummet.

RedAntisocial

· #17 · 13 d ago

I think people get wound up because of how relatively "short" the current range is and the negative impact that has on the convenience of the car vs a gas equivalent that has longer range out of the gate and if you need to refuel on any given day because you're doing a lot of driving, it's relatively easy to find somewhere to do that.

For me? I have no issues with the range. The fluctuations are in line with what I expected, and the few times where I have to take the range into consideration are typically "adventure" days anyway, and that's part of the adventure.

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FB1

· #18 · 12 d ago

Blue al said:
I find it disturbing that people are happy or devastated by + or - 15 miles.….
when the next version arrives with 150+ miles of real world range the value of existing cars is bound to plummet.

Not necessarily so - the current vehicle has more than enough range for me and will still be desirable when I come to sell for those who can't afford a brand new car. I can also charge at home as and when - every night if needed. My previous EV had a range of nearly 300 miles and in the time I had it I never used all that range in one journey.
What I find disturbing is the inefficiency of carrying extra weight around - be that extra battery or tanks full of petrol- just in case .

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PlugInPete

· #19 · 4 d ago

FB1 said:
..previous EV had a range of nearly 300 miles and in the time I had it I never used all that range in one journey.

Exactly this!
The amount of 'battery boxes' ( think VW id4 🤮 ) driving around these days for fear of not being able to do a 300 mile run without a charge is baffling.

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