[Willwors]

Hi all

Getting close to pulling the trigger and ordering a new F56 Cooper S (probably in midnight black) having totally fallen in love with it on the test drive.

For those in the UK, did you manage to haggle any cash off - and what was this as a percentage of your list price?

Also - I've been reading a lot about production delays and cars showing up with the wrong extras attached (or missing them entirely). Are there any trends I should know about?

Thanks in advance

Will

 

[Totallyrandom]

Hi Will

My advice would be to take a look at Drive the deal and use their quotes to see if you can get your local dealer to take some money off. If not, consider ordering through DtD itself.

I'm in the midlands and Coventry Mini told me no discounts, delivery in December/January.

Went to other dealers and some of them have slots available sooner and are willing to give you some money off.

Bottom line- shop around and don't take "no discount" for an answer

 

[culprit]

Be pleasent, fair and most of all ready to walk away and you will get a decent amount off.

Drive the deal is a best priced franchise dealer so ending up with them is no bad thing other than it may be a distance away; buy through them but get the car looked after locally if you can't get a decent deal negotiated through your dealer - I think that DtD is finance purchase dependant; no big deal though, if you are a cash buyer, take the finance and then settle within one or two payments - you will of course pay interest but this will be small beans compared to the money saved off list price.

If you are trading in also make sure you know the Glass guide price range for your car; matching the DtD price (list + options) and getting top end Glass guide money for you trade in are achievable in the same deal...don't belive the rubbish that this isn't possible - there is margin to be negotiated on finance, retail price and the trade in; make the business manager show you the bottom line number for each and don't let the salesman attempt to wrap them all up into a monthly repayment figure.

Remember that BMW are funding 5.9 & 6.9% Apr on MCS's and MC's respectively without negotiation or minimum deposit.

Back to the first sentence, keep it light hearted and pleasent and don't be afraid to show you have done your research.

Sorry if all of that is teaching you to suck eggs!

Good luck.

 

[LB1987]

Most dealers will say they won't be able to give you a discount but as above don't take no for an answer. I ordered my Mini Cooper mid August managed to get £500 off the asking price, about 2.7% discount. That was with Sytner Birmingham who also said no discounts been told it should be in by Thursday this week so a quick turn around.

 

[culprit]

I should add that I have achieved all of the above. It isn't bragging, it's just refining your negotiating skills; they will still be earning a living out of me!

 

[Christian6984]

DTD is showing up about 6.2% discount on a cooper chilli and media XL. But had an email saying there having problems fulfilling bmw and mini orders a while back. Is 6.2% enough? is it ok because the depreciation is usually pretty good on mini's, but the hardest hit is off the forecourt new. In contrast the depreciation on my Fiesta ST-3 can't rival the mini but with no effort and they hadn't even started making the range topper came with a no effort discount of just over 15%

Worth a shot? Would it work with them being so new.

http://www.mini2.com/forum/dealership-feedback/193473-dealership-discount.html

 

[Pmcg16]

Ive just ordered an MCS. Most dealers were prepared to clear the finance on my MCS Coupe (worth around £1000) and nothing else. Initially, I thought this was a reasonable. However, after checking the offers on several dealer websites, I noticed one advertising a £900 contribution towards the deposit. After a simple phone call they offered to clear the finance on my current car and give me the deposit contribution.

Also, as a general guide, the What Car website gives advice on the price you should pay for each model and therefore, the amount of discount available.

As such, I suggest you spend some time checking the various dealers in your area and see what you can find.

 

[mikey_mjw]

I ordered my MCS in May - highly specced OTTR price about £25k, the first dealership I went to said they could not do discounts. So I played hardball with them, told them if they want an order they need to make the price more attractive. I'm paying on PCP over 4 years, for me what mattered was the monthly budget. I had £250 per month in my head, they came back with £265 per month and would not budge at all. So I went to 2 other dealers (Sytner in Coventry) who would give me a penny off and listers, Kings Lynn who came back with £252 per month. In total that equated to just over 8% discount. It meant a 100 mile drive to collect the car, but what better way to play with your new car.

From my experience it pays to shop around, also I found that if you know the exact spec you want then dealing with them via email takes the sales patter (and emotion) out of it making it easier to stick to your guns.

One other thing to look out for is that the dealers try to add the extras supaguard etc... onto the order. The best way to deal with that is to initially go along with it (that's where their margins come from), get them down to the number you have in your head - then tell them to take that off too. They are more likely to give you a bigger discount when they have high margins extras on the order, it's unlikely they will change the amount of discount applied later on in the deal as by that stage it's getting close to signing on the dotted line and they won't want to loose the sale.

I don't know if that's of any use, but thought it may be of use to share my experiences with you.

 

[QMark]

I got £500 off a 24k specced Cooper, direct from Mini (Berry Chiswick in London), no finance. They said they might be able to offer more off an MCS, but I wanted the new 3 cylinder engine.
I did as Mikey suggested...left all the high margin stuff on until the end, and then whittled it down without losing the £500. Although I did go back afterwards and spend it on the LED headlights! Best money I ever spent...
I got some comfort from buying directly from Mini, with their workshop right next door. Have been back with a couple of niggles and had someone pop over to the showroom, from the workshop, to have a look. Not sure you would get that service if buying from a third party.

 

[olliesgrandad]

I got £1030 off my cooper D .
Bear in mind that it is end of quarter for sales on 30th Sept and they be looking to meet targets.

 

[thechemist]

I live in Birmingham and it was a nightmare trying to get a discount there, the dealers just expected you buy without anything. So looked at dealers way out in the sticks and managed to haggle 1700 quids off my cooper just by simply letting two dealers compete and asking them to give me there very best price!

 

[olliesgrandad]

I live in Birmingham and it was a nightmare trying to get a discount there, the dealers just expected you buy without anything. So looked at dealers way out in the sticks and managed to haggle 1700 quids off my cooper just by simply letting two dealers compete and asking them to give me there very best price!

Good result.
In addition to my discount of £1030 I got £14,000 for my 2013 Clubman.
As I only paid £14450 for it in January and had covered 20000 miles you can imagine I was well happy.

 

[Wicket]

my dealer gave me £6100 for my 2007 MCS pretty good spec, which was fair. And for. My F56 £25.5k car they gave me shy of 2k discount off the car..... Woo hoo!

 

[B19 OSS]

I placed order yesterday, so not got delivery date yet.

Cooper SD auto, blazing red/black roof, chili, parking, media packs + sunroof, hud, LEDs, heated seats, heated screen, privacy, red interior, cruise, HK stereo.... listed out inc delivery etc @ £28.5k. got for a 'special discount' of £26k.

how did I get the discount --- I was about to go test the Audi S1 and they dropped the price for me.

 

[donnaj1dlh]

I got £500 off my MCS and they guaranteed my trade in value ..... I ordered mine when the 'debacle' at MINI was just starting and I was comforted in the fact that my trade in price was honoured should the MINI get delayed. Thankfully mine wasn't though. Would have benefitted me financially if it had though!

 

[st4444]

Hi all

Getting close to pulling the trigger and ordering a new F56 Cooper S (probably in midnight black) having totally fallen in love with it on the test drive.

For those in the UK, did you manage to haggle any cash off - and what was this as a percentage of your list price?

Also - I've been reading a lot about production delays and cars showing up with the wrong extras attached (or missing them entirely). Are there any trends I should know about?

Thanks in advance

Will

hi Guys,

I ordered my mcs on August 31st, with JCW exterior and interior packs, and 90% of the extras. I’ve not yet seen a car in the UK with the body kit so I’m thinking the wait may be a little long. I was told i would have the car by the last week of October / first week of September.

just a note of advice for anyone wanting to order a new car, it’s like any interaction when you want to win, understand your opponents week points and a dealers week point is time of year, if you time your order correctly you can get a huge discounts..... I’ll explain.

firstly the dealer can’t give a big discount on the car as there is not a huge amount of profit in the car on its initial sale. maybe 10%. so if you manage a 5% discount you have done well. however if your trading in a car the dealer can in a bid to win your business can over pay you on your trade in, thus reducing the price you have to pay for the model you want. it could be worth buying a mini for 3k and getting the dealer to give you a trade in value of 5k. here is the deal I did.

new mini ordered - £29k
cash deposit - £1k
trade in my current mini - £7.5k (actual second hand value £3.5k)
remaining balance - £20.5k (I’ll either finance or pay in cash)

29k list price car cost me 25k (4k of free extras basically)

no you’re going to ask, why would a dealer over pay for the trade in car.....? I’ll explain. the dealer makes money from new car sales in two main ways. one is the 10% profit margin on the car, which much of the time is reduced due to a discount given to entice the customer. however the second and more important way is by hitting sales targets given to them by BMW. a dealer must fulfil a certain number of orders every 6 months to 1) keeps its status as an official mini dealer. they won’t lose it for missing targets once or twice, but if they keep missing targets they will get there dealership contract torn up. 2) to get a kick back bonus from BMW. this means even if the dealer sold all its new cars for zero profit initially but subsequently hit the target unit figure set out by BMW for new orders they would still make money because BMW would pay them a nice big bonus for hitting its target.

so all you need to do is wait until the end of august or end of feb (when the plates will change (uk only, us will have different dates, but same concept applies) and targets need to be given to BMW. go to three dealers on the same day, give them all the same spec car and tell them to give you the best price. then slowly start to play them off each other telling them the other dealer beat your price blaaah blaaah blaaah and you get a good discount.

I went to 3 dealers on Saturday morning and by Sunday 3pm I had the car I wanted with a 4k discount because I knew they needed to get the order in for Sunday 4pm as it would go towards their targets and there desperate to hit them. no dealer wants you to know this but this is how it works.

so good luck guys.

also how do you find out what date your car was built on?

 

[felty99]

Managed to get a 6% discount on a new Mini Cooper over the weekend with very little haggling after a couple of test drives. Also gave top book price for my Scirocco as part ex.

Finance on the other hand was not very competitive but at least they were honest suggesting I look elsewhere for HP.

 

[Sag]

When I ordered back at the start of June drivethedeal were quoting £0 discount on new mini so I was pleased to get £600 off a cooper and £400 off a mini one (they dropped the amount when I switched from ordering a cooper to a one) both with around £1500 of extras. I negotiated the discount initially by email which is easier and based on PCP, but actually bought on cash basis, they did suggest when I placed the order the discounts didn't apply to cash purchase, so I said don't worry then I won't order it, as if by magic they managed the discounts. I did get an extra bonus because at the time of ordering the mini one had only just gone on to mini's system so a glitch meant that the price for alloys was the same as the cooper (there is now a £300 premium). I have now got price of TLC package taken off due to delays (still waiting for the mini one, hopefully get it in a couple of weeks time!) but I'm driving around in a Cooper D the dealers have lent me in the meantime.

 

[adampaz22]

I ordered my MCS in May - highly specced OTTR price about £25k, the first dealership I went to said they could not do discounts. So I played hardball with them, told them if they want an order they need to make the price more attractive. I'm paying on PCP over 4 years, for me what mattered was the monthly budget. I had £250 per month in my head, they came back with £265 per month and would not budge at all. So I went to 2 other dealers (Sytner in Coventry) who would give me a penny off and listers, Kings Lynn who came back with £252 per month. In total that equated to just over 8% discount. It meant a 100 mile drive to collect the car, but what better way to play with your new car.

From my experience it pays to shop around, also I found that if you know the exact spec you want then dealing with them via email takes the sales patter (and emotion) out of it making it easier to stick to your guns.

One other thing to look out for is that the dealers try to add the extras supaguard etc... onto the order. The best way to deal with that is to initially go along with it (that's where their margins come from), get them down to the number you have in your head - then tell them to take that off too. They are more likely to give you a bigger discount when they have high margins extras on the order, it's unlikely they will change the amount of discount applied later on in the deal as by that stage it's getting close to signing on the dotted line and they won't want to loose the sale.

I don't know if that's of any use, but thought it may be of use to share my experiences with you.

Mikey - some really good tips above so will try the weekend, went into first dealer the weekend and got the £300 discount as standard and thats all we offer line. Undecided on ordering a Cooper, Cooper D or Cooper SD. What I have noticed is the more spec I look at putting on the more attractive the Cooper SD looks as the prices become closer to each other.

I am Birmingham based so may try Coventry. What sort of deposit did you put down to get payments circa the £250 mark if you dont mind me asking.

Thanks

Adam

 

[Totallyrandom]

Adam, not sure whether Coventry will differ if you're buying on finance but I was told by them in no uncertain terms that discounts weren't allowed. They even went so far as to tell me that they knew of someone that had placed an order for a customer with a discount applied and Mini had cancelled it because it wouldn't allow the dealership to give a discount. They told me that a "significant" discount of £400+ was completely out of the question

In the end I ordered through drivethedeal and am due to pick up my car in two weeks for 8% (£1.5-1.6k) below the list price, however Rybrook Stratford sounded like they might be willing to do a deal when I visited them to decide on colours so they may be worth a call/visit.

Definitely shop around and do not take Mini Coventry's word as gospel