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This is probably just me looking for issues, but does it make sense that the steering self-centres better to the left than the right on my MCS?

If I pull out of a junction and give it some power it centres fine either way......not sure if that’s the LSD at work. However, if I’m just moving along at a constant speed...fast or slow...and gently pull the wheel just off centre and let go, it will centre better one way than the other. Pulling gently right and letting go will centre fine, but pulling left and letting go it will stop short of fully centring. Semi-interestingly, pulling the wheel sharply just and letting go results in it centring fine either way.

Everything seems fine in terms of handling......with the car in a straight line, I can take my hands off the wheel and accelerate or brake and the car doesn’t deviate. Also, I have a difference of just 0.5mm between the inside and outside of the front tyres, so I don’t think I have a tracking issue.

My steering wheel looks ever so slightly off to the left when the car is driving straight but that could be an optical illusion with the steering column which actually moves, along with the speedo, very slightly when locking and unlocking the steering wheel into position.

Edit: Pretty sure it’s actually always been this way but I’m re/noticing every little thing at the moment. :)
 

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Interesting that the effect is not noticeable after pulling sharply and letting go. If not for that I'd have thought it was perhaps just the camber of the road which was causing it...

I've noticed that MINI's are pretty sensitive to uneven or patched road surfaces. Mine displays the tramlining effect that particularly afflicts cars with a bigger wheels and runcrap combo.
 

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It probably is just camber or road surface related.

I suspect it isn’t anything serious...or at all really...but I thought I’d check in with you guys and see what you think. :)
 

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After much testing, I think I also seem to have a bit of drift under acceleration/deceleration.

If I hold the wheel steady and accelerate, the car seems to drift slightly to the right. Lifting off the gas drifts slightly to the left. Most noticeable at motorway speeds. It’s really noticeable if I’m cruising at 70MPH and then cancel the cruise whilst on a gentle left......it tightens the nose into the bend. Resuming cruise pushes the nose back out.

To be clear, it doesn’t pull the steering wheel, it just drifts.

I’ve searched and the suggestions are alignment, tyres, suspension issues etc. Also seen a few people suggest an EPS recalibration and one guy whose Mini did it from new (though the opposite way...mind he is in the US :) ) so he thinks it’s normal.

Anyone seen this before?
 

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Might just be tracking? Even if the Wear looks ok. Tyre pressures different tyres, faulty tyre brake imbalance or binding ( not likely) ,trying to think simple as starters.
 

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Thanks Jeremy. Simple is good......I’m hoping for simple.

I may get a full alignment done. My gut says the dealer would be best for this...or would you recommend somewhere like kwik-fit? Not sure if the dealer has a full 4 wheel alignment machine.

From what I’ve read, rear toe could cause this, but you can’t change the rear toe on the F56, so I hope that’s not the case.

May swap the front tyres over too and see if it reverses the effect.

I had front brakes and pads fitted about 6 weeks ago by MINI, so they shouldn’t be an issue.

After that, I’m not sure where to look.

I know they had to have the sub-frame down to fit the LSD......I very much doubt they’d have forgotten to tighten anything but I suppose anything’s possible.
 

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Yes you never know-re the tracking dealer or someone with laser align perhaps that can do it properly. But if they did what you said and something needs tightening or not quite in alignment that would explain it. Probably wouldn't trust Kwik fit with it! Keep us posted!
 

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I called the local dealer earlier. They’re open for key workers vehicles so they’re gonna give me a call on Monday to book me in. *

Thanks again Jeremy.

I’ve had trouble with alignments from the likes of kwik-fit in the past which is why I was leaning towards the dealer, but I wasn’t sure whether dealers were recommended for alignment work.

I will indeed keep you all updated. :)

* I’m not NHS or anything......just a lowly port worker. :)
 

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This covid I hope has made us realise every key worker has been essential to keeping us up and running. supermarket st ocker driver etç is what we need and we should value everyone equally imo.
 

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For accurate tracking you want to try a specialist who has a Hunter (or similar) lazer 4 wheel alignment machine, this costs around £60 which is well worth paying as if it corrects it a little could save the price of at least 1 tyre which costs more than £60
 

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Thanks Robby.

I read a few posts earlier recommending:


Apparently they list Hunter Approved alignment centres across the country.

I’ll let the dealer look the car over first I think otherwise they may throw it back out of alignment if it ends up needing something tightening/replacing.

Actually...I may give one of the alignment centres a call tomorrow and pick their brains. There’s a Cooper bodyshop listed on there......they should know what they’re talking about. :)
 

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Thanks Robby.

I read a few posts earlier recommending:


Apparently they list Hunter Approved alignment centres across the country.

I’ll let the dealer look the car over first I think otherwise they may throw it back out of alignment if it ends up needing something tightening/replacing.

Actually...I may give one of the alignment centres a call tomorrow and pick their brains. There’s a Cooper bodyshop listed on there......they should know what they’re talking about. :)
Some places will do a free check and only charge if you want the work carried out if anythings needs adjusting (y)
 

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The dealer can’t find a thing wrong with any of the suspension components. Off to kwik-fit (only place open with a Hunter machine) now for a free alignment check. May get them to swap the front tyres over too and see if that helps.
 

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Alignment is all fine apart from the camber being around 1.2 degrees out on one of the rears and 0.6 on the other. They said that shouldn’t cause any pulling.

I asked them to swap the fronts over as a troubleshooting step. The guy pulled the car out and then came in and asked me how many miles was on the car. When I asked why, he replied that the suspension bushes were shot on the front. Apparently he could feel the movement when he applied the brakes so he asked one of the other lads to watch and they could see it. He said the left seems worse than the right which would explain the pulling to the right under power.

He said the dealer may have missed it as you can only see the issue when the weight is on the suspension.

The dealer are now going to book me in to investigate further.
 

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Well done amazed Kwik f it for were more on the ball than I thought. Sounds like you're getting there!
 

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Spoke to the dealer again this morning. I got the distinct feeling during the call that they don’t put much stock in kwik-fits diagnosis. I’m booked in with them the week after next but I’m starting to lose a little faith, so I’ve also booked into a local indie specialist next Wednesday.

If it turns out the bushes are shot then I’m gonna replace with poly as the BMW stuff seems to be weak. They’re apparently a Superpro dealer......I’d never heard of them before but a bit of research suggests they’re at least as good as powerflex so I may just get them fitted. They are, however, happy to fit powerflex if I supply them.

Does anyone have any opinions on Superpro vs Powerflex?
 

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Well...Kwik Fit have gone from hero to zero. Not only is there absolutely nothing wrong with any of the bushes, but the alignment was well out.

Everything is aligned now. I still feel like it’s drifting at time’s but I’ll give it a few days.
 

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Not really surprised . Hopefully you're sorted!
 

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just a heads up re using non Mini dealers for tracking...I booked into my local tyre spot who I rate highly but they couldn’t track the car at rear as a special tool is needed?? Also, mini and BM simulate the weight of a semi laden car meaning the car is aligned in its usual position...the icing for me was that my local stealer was only £38 nearly half price of there options 👍
 
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