I picked up a 2019 JCW with facelift yesterday. So far the car feels nice, maybe a little bit waggly but that can be the soft rubber of winter tires in 17". I know more with 18" summer tires with no run-flat tires. Only thing I don't like is that the car don't give the pops and bang which I have seen and heard in youtube. Some reports are that the pops and bang is removed from the facelift model because of some new rules, but I really want to have this. What can I do?
2019 JCW, no pops and bang
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To jump back to the dreaded noise issue, as we all seem to agree the cars no longer Pop and Bang, BUT on a cold start the car is much louder and today i revved her up whilst at work and sure enough Pop Pop bang, woooah wtf is happening, this is what it should sound like, but as soon as it warms up that is the end of that
So what is the engine doing when it first starts? Is it like an old school choke? So is over fueling ??
Wish i could keep it sounding this way, hopefully one of you will try the same and see what happens.
There might be hope yet.
I LOVE the start up growl! I wish it was like that all the time! Best pops are at 6.00am when I leave my street. Neighbours must hate me but a lovely way to start your day
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Fuel. When I use another brand other than Shell 91 (highest at this altitude) I get very little to no "extra" sounds.
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Agree. I only use Tesco Momentum 99RON....I don't believe all this 'supermarket fuel' nonsense
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I will try this 99ron again as my local Tesco doesn't do it so pretty sure i only tried it once and that was when the car was new so maybe not quite opened up yet?
Just seen your avg fuel economy ! Bloody **** how do you manage that??? I can't get near that and thats without the **** lack of overfueling for pop pop bang LoL!
Just seen your avg fuel economy ! Bloody **** how do you manage that??? I can't get near that and thats without the **** lack of overfueling for pop pop bang LoL!
Agree. I only use Tesco Momentum 99RON....I don't believe all this 'supermarket fuel' nonsense
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Ha...to be fair, Johnny only gets a good raggin' at a weekend (and at the moment he still has his winter rubbers on). Most of the miles is commuter miles. The times I commute I'm not sitting in traffic, even in the city
Only averaging 0.8mpg less that it's F56 S predecessor
but maybe the 99ron makes a difference almost 10K miles now..... Best mpg was 45.1mpg was on a 700mile round trip to Northumberland and back - and that was "having lots of fun" over the A68 >
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Very unlikely due to the more ... choked exhaust: dpf (particulate filter) presence for petrol car.
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Mines opening up nicely!
I only use "nonsense Supermarket Fuel" and my 66 plate JCW makes a racket.Agree. I only use Tesco Momentum 99RON....I don't believe all this 'supermarket fuel' nonsense
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I have a DPF 2019 JCW... pops and bangs plenty.... I’ve found it’s better in cold weather and with standard 95 unleaded....
Remove the boot boards and parcel shelf if you can’t hear them. Also blip the throttle in a the auto to force a change down to make it pop. Or hold down left flappy paddle to find lowest gear...
Remove the boot boards and parcel shelf if you can’t hear them. Also blip the throttle in a the auto to force a change down to make it pop. Or hold down left flappy paddle to find lowest gear...
Ok. I will try to ear ... eehhehehehehe
Will remove all the thinks in the boot. Still I opened the window.. the other day and nothing.
I have had a Lotus Elise 111R (toyota engine) and I could ear all the rumble.
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2019 JCW, august make, purchased in Russia and imported by dealer from Belgium. Mine does have pops and bangs starting from around 3K RPM. Also, dealer’s paper claim Euro-5 ecological class, not euro-6 or 6d.
Hi @LazyLancer. Don´t get me wrong. But it is very strange that a production august 2019 JCWdoesn´t have GPF and not be euro-6 or 6d. Mine is production June 2019, and euro 6 and no pops and bangs. Very "taimed" exhaust.
Are you sure that you have a 2019 production? Even if it is a 0km import / new... that was in stock in Belgium.
Several countries had to sale their stock pre-euro6 a very good price to end them. (European Importer rules)
Or yours in Russia was "get rid off" the GPF and all the crap that EU regulations impose at the Dealership and meet the Russian regulation?
Last doubt... when you say.. dealer.. is car dealer.. ou MINI Official Dealership?
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That is a good question and i believe i don't have an answer.
I'm checking the customs papers (i asked my dealer for copies) and i can't find "August" anywhere (was it my imagination or something?).
However, the papers claim the following:
1) Production year: 2019
2) Ecological class: 5
3) Vehicle type approval issued on Sep 16 2019 or was effective on that date
4) A weird acronym related to the car being transported that i can't understand but it has a date of Sep 19 2019.
5) Car has been imported on Oct 04 2019
6) Car passport for Russia issued on Oct 07 2019
7) I purchased it on Oct 28 2019
I am no longer sure about production month but it should be at least 2019.
Dunno, but Russia never accepted those new noise and emissions regulations as in EU.
Is it maybe that the car was made for countries where those regulations are not applicable?
That was an official MINI Dealership listed on mini.ru
Well, MAYBE my exhaust is tamed as well AND i just don't know how it used to sound back in 2018, but i definitely get some "popcorn" sound and occasional pops when driving fast or revving the engine.
The easy way to find out is with the VIN number of the car.
I will try to find the production date from factory with it.
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I'm sorry, i'm usually reluctant when it comes to posting some personal information online and VIN numbers of my cars are on that list. Maybe that due to being born in Russia where used "copycat" cars with fake numbers and\or license plates (sometimes stolen in a neighboring country) are a (rare, but still) reality.
However, i tried to google up some "check VIN number" websites and one of them gives me this (click to enlarge):
![68159]( "68159")
Below is a list of all the installed equipment and the list is spot on. Which makes me believe this info is correct overall.
And it states Sep 18 2019 as production date.
But i also stumbled upon some very interesting info in the bottom
![68160]( "68160")
LAENDERSPEZIFISCHES MOTORMANAGEMENT translates as "Region-specific engine management" and SELEKTION COP RELEVANTER FAHRZEUGE is something about CoP compliance which is roughly "The CoP (Conformity of Production) is the proof that the manufactured vehicles (production) comply with the requirements placed on them (eg pollutant emission values)".
Which in turn leads me to a hypothesis that cars built for Russia are indeed built without any EU regulations in mind.
The website i used is https://www.mdecoder.com/ , you can try inputting your own VIN to see if you have those options too.
P.S. Or yet again i haven't heard a pre-2019 JCW to understand mine is toned down as well.
P.P.S. Will make an exhaust sound video tomorrow if i dont forget
However, i tried to google up some "check VIN number" websites and one of them gives me this (click to enlarge):
Below is a list of all the installed equipment and the list is spot on. Which makes me believe this info is correct overall.
And it states Sep 18 2019 as production date.
But i also stumbled upon some very interesting info in the bottom
S1A1A | LAENDERSPEZIFISCHES MOTORMANAGEMENT |
S1CAA | SELEKTION COP RELEVANTER FAHRZEUGE |
Which in turn leads me to a hypothesis that cars built for Russia are indeed built without any EU regulations in mind.
The website i used is https://www.mdecoder.com/ , you can try inputting your own VIN to see if you have those options too.
P.S. Or yet again i haven't heard a pre-2019 JCW to understand mine is toned down as well.
P.P.S. Will make an exhaust sound video tomorrow if i dont forget
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great. I will do the same and we will compare. Ehehehheh great post.
You are right!!! And I’m sorry It wasn’t my intention know anything personal. I only wanted to help. And well done. Better that way.
Flavio
great. I will do the same and we will compare. Ehehehheh great post.
You are right!!! And I’m sorry It wasn’t my intention know anything personal. I only wanted to help. And well done. Better that way.
Flavio
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